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		<title>By: This Snow Is Eating My Snowball</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Snow Is Eating My Snowball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And make me wonder if I set the right precedent by paying Conner and his friend to shovel the driveway. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shovelling the front steps and walk is one of my son&#039;s standard chores. Some days he does it before and after school. I&#039;m not yet comfortable with him running the snowblower at 15, so my husband handles that unless he&#039;s away for work and then I get that lovely job.  When you can easily get a foot of snow overnight, leaving it for when he gets back isn&#039;t an option. We live in a county subdivision (3 acres) and have about 300feet of laneway plus the parking area in front of the garage. It takes my DH 1-2 hrs to do it all depending on whether it&#039;s the light fluffy stuff or the heavy wet stuff. This winter we&#039;ve arranged for a nearby farmer with a plow attachment on his tractor to be our &quot;on call&quot; snow removal service. He&#039;s one of the few who will do pay as you go. Most commercial services charge a flat fee for the winter.  If DH is away and I just can&#039;t face doing it, now I have a plan B as long as I don&#039;t mind paying the $40. Nobody I know shovels their laneway here - it&#039;s the shortest, surest way to a heart attack!  Even friends who live in the suburbs have snow removal services.  It&#039;s just not realistic to get to work on time if you have to shovel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shovelling the front steps and walk is one of my son&#8217;s standard chores. Some days he does it before and after school. I&#8217;m not yet comfortable with him running the snowblower at 15, so my husband handles that unless he&#8217;s away for work and then I get that lovely job.  When you can easily get a foot of snow overnight, leaving it for when he gets back isn&#8217;t an option. We live in a county subdivision (3 acres) and have about 300feet of laneway plus the parking area in front of the garage. It takes my DH 1-2 hrs to do it all depending on whether it&#8217;s the light fluffy stuff or the heavy wet stuff. This winter we&#8217;ve arranged for a nearby farmer with a plow attachment on his tractor to be our &#8220;on call&#8221; snow removal service. He&#8217;s one of the few who will do pay as you go. Most commercial services charge a flat fee for the winter.  If DH is away and I just can&#8217;t face doing it, now I have a plan B as long as I don&#8217;t mind paying the $40. Nobody I know shovels their laneway here &#8211; it&#8217;s the shortest, surest way to a heart attack!  Even friends who live in the suburbs have snow removal services.  It&#8217;s just not realistic to get to work on time if you have to shovel.</p>
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		<title>By: jolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retriever,
Those are some excellent points to think about. I do know I expect more help around the house from my 14yo during the summer than during the school year. Maybe if some of these kids had more guidance with what to do with their money... Giving some away and saving a certain percentage... It would help form a perspective away from just working to get the latest electronic gadget or to keep up an impressive car, etc. Definitely some food for thought. I also worked during high school, but I worked hard at my grades, too. The times they are a changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retriever,<br />
Those are some excellent points to think about. I do know I expect more help around the house from my 14yo during the summer than during the school year. Maybe if some of these kids had more guidance with what to do with their money&#8230; Giving some away and saving a certain percentage&#8230; It would help form a perspective away from just working to get the latest electronic gadget or to keep up an impressive car, etc. Definitely some food for thought. I also worked during high school, but I worked hard at my grades, too. The times they are a changing.</p>
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		<title>By: retriever</title>
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		<dc:creator>retriever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have always been far stingier with our kids&#039; allowances than their friends&#039; parents.  They all used to get about 2 or 3 dollars a week until they were 13, put into their savings accounts (from my paycheck).  Then got 3 or 4 dollars a week once they were walking to town, to get a soda or ice cream with a friend.  These days, my son will ask me for jobs he could earn money for. Like you, I feel there are certain chores everyone in the family is obliged to help with (price of free room and board).  But if I have a particularly horrible job (like dog getting sick all over the playroom, or cleaning out the fridge after too long neglect), or weeding the front yard (compacted soil, so HARD work) I will pay him piece rates.  We have always been careful not to let our kids work more than about 4 or 5 hours a week for pay once they find paying parttime work.  The girls worked in the local library shelving books and circulation, and it made them view all their purchases (or things I bought them) in terms of &quot;how many hours work would it take to get these?&quot;  A good perspective I think.  But we felt it was important they limit the hours, so they would still have time for schoolwork, practice, choir, whatever.  

My husband was once teaching summer school years ago, and all the kids who were repeating a course, or in for discipinary reasons had cars.  ANd all worked MANY MANY hours a week at jobs in the mall or the like (like over 15 a week) to pay for running those cars and buying the crud they like.  He drew from that a sense that if you have a car too young and work too many hours, you hurt your schoolwork and you are likely to be getting into trouble....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have always been far stingier with our kids&#8217; allowances than their friends&#8217; parents.  They all used to get about 2 or 3 dollars a week until they were 13, put into their savings accounts (from my paycheck).  Then got 3 or 4 dollars a week once they were walking to town, to get a soda or ice cream with a friend.  These days, my son will ask me for jobs he could earn money for. Like you, I feel there are certain chores everyone in the family is obliged to help with (price of free room and board).  But if I have a particularly horrible job (like dog getting sick all over the playroom, or cleaning out the fridge after too long neglect), or weeding the front yard (compacted soil, so HARD work) I will pay him piece rates.  We have always been careful not to let our kids work more than about 4 or 5 hours a week for pay once they find paying parttime work.  The girls worked in the local library shelving books and circulation, and it made them view all their purchases (or things I bought them) in terms of &#8220;how many hours work would it take to get these?&#8221;  A good perspective I think.  But we felt it was important they limit the hours, so they would still have time for schoolwork, practice, choir, whatever.  </p>
<p>My husband was once teaching summer school years ago, and all the kids who were repeating a course, or in for discipinary reasons had cars.  ANd all worked MANY MANY hours a week at jobs in the mall or the like (like over 15 a week) to pay for running those cars and buying the crud they like.  He drew from that a sense that if you have a car too young and work too many hours, you hurt your schoolwork and you are likely to be getting into trouble&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now we do the quarter system.  We start out with 5.00 in quarters at the beginning of each week and she can earn them by doing things or doing something without being reminded.  But the quarters can also be taken away... 

It is working really well so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now we do the quarter system.  We start out with 5.00 in quarters at the beginning of each week and she can earn them by doing things or doing something without being reminded.  But the quarters can also be taken away&#8230; </p>
<p>It is working really well so far.</p>
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		<title>By: jolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I must say, I am trying to take the allowance responsibility seriously. Our time with our kids is so short! It really is trial and error, but hopefully he can get some mistakes over with while he&#039;s still living with us instead of having to make them out in The Real World.
At least, that&#039;s the idea;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I must say, I am trying to take the allowance responsibility seriously. Our time with our kids is so short! It really is trial and error, but hopefully he can get some mistakes over with while he&#8217;s still living with us instead of having to make them out in The Real World.<br />
At least, that&#8217;s the idea;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I must say that we live in a townhome, so all our lawn care is taken care of...except for when it has been blizzardering (is that a word?) for days and the trucks can&#039;t make it to us...but then my wonderful husband scoops for us... Second I must say I have NEVER in my life scooped snow so therefore,Thridly...if you son would have offered to scoop my driveway I would have gladly paid him at least $50!!! 
But now to the real point of my comment. I think your allowance system is a great idea and I think its great that you have started him so early learning the real value of money and how to budget his money, he will be a great money handler when he is older!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I must say that we live in a townhome, so all our lawn care is taken care of&#8230;except for when it has been blizzardering (is that a word?) for days and the trucks can&#8217;t make it to us&#8230;but then my wonderful husband scoops for us&#8230; Second I must say I have NEVER in my life scooped snow so therefore,Thridly&#8230;if you son would have offered to scoop my driveway I would have gladly paid him at least $50!!!<br />
But now to the real point of my comment. I think your allowance system is a great idea and I think its great that you have started him so early learning the real value of money and how to budget his money, he will be a great money handler when he is older!!!</p>
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